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In Memory of
 RYAN, JOHN JOSEPH
Private
4390576, 6th Bn.
Green Howards (Yorkshire Regiment)
on 11th July 1943

Remembered with honour
SYRACUSE WAR CEMETERY, SICILY

Son of John and Frances Annie Ryan, of South Bank, Yorkshire.

Memories... Next morning, we progressed up the eastern side of the island to make an attack on Sortino and during our advance we encountered stiff opposition at certain strong points and a number of our men were killed, among them Sergeant Harrington and John Ryan. My pal, Charlie Lee, was missing; Jack Ramsden and all his section were blown to pieces; Jack Betley was also killed. The 7th Green Howards were also having a rough time. We constantly had to be aware of booby traps and hadn't to touch any civilian property in case of the lethal traps the Germans had left behind. I vividly recall patrolling along a railway line, which ran through a massive lemon grove. When we came to search some buildings we found four naked bodies; rigor mortis was complete and they were on their backs on a large bench. The bodies were black and were starting to decompose; they were being eaten by maggots and showed signs of having been tortured. I hoped the perpetrators suffered the wrath of God. During war, one sees many things and forgets but it has to be like that. We were soldiers, but I can still, after these many years, remember the bodies lying in that hut....

From Bill Cheall's memoirs, an ordinary soldier in the Green Howards

Posted by Paul Cheall ( http://www.grimdetermination.co.uk/)

Jacqueline Ryan ("Jack"), Johnnie's niece, said:

"I always knew about my uncle, although I was born 15 years after he died. My grandparents had a big photo of him in uniform hanging over their fireplace when I was a kid. Also, my Dad has the telegram his sister sent telling him that Johnnie had been killed in action. At the time Johhnie was killed, my Dad (Tom) was in training as a Cromwell tank driver and eventually went to Normandy in July 1944 and made it all the way to Berlin.
According to the CWGC website, Johnnie (to differentiate him from his Dad who was also known as John) was 23 when he died but his date of birth is actually 28/3/21, so he was only 22. The family lived at 17 Surrey Street in South Bank and he was the eldest of 6. His twin, Nellie (Nancy Ellen), died the same year she was born, then came Joyce (1922-2005), my dad, Tom (James Thomas, 1925), Bob (George Robert, 1927-2009) and Frances Annie (1929-1984).
My Dad always believed his brother was killed on 10th July and had in fact written that in his bible he kept with him at the time and still has, so was quite surprised to find out it was 11th! When I read the bit on your website taken from your dad's diaries, I discovered Johhnie had been killed by machine gun fire which as far as I know the family weren't aware of, so thanks for that. Dad has a corkscrew that he still uses which he says Uncle J told him he'd picked up in a bar near Dunkirk, so again, he was probably there."


Johnnie Ryan signed up for the Terriers around his 18th birthday which would have been end of March/start of April 1939 into A Company. He worked at the time at Bannister's butchers in South Bank. My own Dad also lived in South Bank and signed up April 1939. Their two army sevice numbers are very close to each other:

Johnnie Ryan - 4390576, Bill Cheall - 4390717 (went into B Company).

"Johnnie was first sent to France (via Yvetot near Le Havre) and then on to the area around Lille before moving into Belgium. He managed to make it to De Panne and Dunkirk and was taken off the beach by a paddle steamer (which he says may have been the Royal Daffodil. I've looked it up and it was actually a propeller ship but its sister ships were both paddle steamers). Apparently, he kept an illicit diary (as you weren't supposed to write one on active service but he obviously wasn't the only one!) all through France and Belgium, which he gave to his younger sister on his return but we don't know if it still exists.
After that, he went to Morecambe and then Launceston before being sent to North Africa, Dad thinks as a Bren gunner. He was at Gazala and the retreat into Egypt and then badly wounded in the leg by shrapnel at some point in the 1st Battle of El Alamein. Lance Corporal James Frederick Secker was killed by the same shell and is buried at El Alamein cemetery according to the CWGC website (also from South Bank).
 Johnnie was sent back to the front to Tunisia, somewhere on the Mareth Line where he suffered shell shock - not surprising considering earlier events. Thereafter, he was shipped out to Sicily where he was killed during operation Husky - Ed."

When he first signed up with the Terriers, he was with Eddie Mitchell from Normanby, John Joy from Middlesbrough and Eric Robinson, from Surrey Street in South Bank, whose dad was a coal man. Dad seems to think Eric went AWOL before embarkation for France.

 

From Bill Cheall's memoirs, an ordinary soldier in the Green Howards

Paul Cheall ( http://www.grimdetermination.co.uk/#/john-ryan/4543549446)



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Name: Ryan, John Joseph, J J
Rank: Private
Service: 4390576
Unit Text: 6th Bn.
Regiment: Green Howards (Yorkshire Regiment)
Date of Death: 11/07/1943
Age: 23
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Grave Reference: II. E. 3.
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